User talk:Enyavar

Welcome to Wikimedia Commons, Enyavar!

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About File:Arab Boycott map.svg

Taiwan has never participated the boycott. --Elnino199127 (talk) 12:07, 7 September 2020 (UTC)

I was using Gil Feiler, page 40, as a source for that: he claims that at some point, yes they did, "by 1987" which could mean they joined only in the 1980ies and stopped in the 1990ies after only a few years. He lists 26 states in the same breath, so no details are given. Best, --Enyavar (talk) 05:18, 8 September 2020 (UTC)

Locator maps

Dear Enyavar, Good day, Thank you for your kind message. Nowadays i am so busy with my school. But i will complete for all Turkish provinces.--Emreculha (talk) 18:49, 13 October 2021 (UTC)

File:Silk Road in the I century AD - ru.svg

Hi!
Please, tell me why did you do this?

Hi, I was categorizing maps, and stumbled upon a couple maps that didn't belong into "Route Maps", hence I removed unnessecary categories. The end goal is to have maps of similar extents, timeframes or topics sorted together; and different types of maps sorted separately. And neither did these two maps of the silk road show "Natural Earth" nor are they showing local directions which would be the purpose of a "route map" (check the other maps within "Route maps"). --Enyavar (talk) 16:22, 1 December 2021 (UTC)

Category:Natural Earth contains images created using data from the site www.naturalearthdata.com. If you look at the section "Source" of the file Summary, you will see that this picture was made using this data. As for the routes, I'm at a loss. The map consists of route images almost entirely. Look at there or there. --Kaidor (talk) 16:48, 2 December 2021 (UTC)

I restored the Natural Earth category, thanks for pointing out my error here. Merely 1000 maps have that category so far, so apologies, I didn't know. It is a valid maps-by-source cat.

About "Route maps", well we have hundreds of thousands of maps that highlight one route or the other. So we need to subclassify them as specifically as possible, in this case Category:Maps of the Silk Road", in other cases Category:Route maps in Connecticut or Category:Airline maps or Category:Maps of sea routes, etc. In the ideal world, the "Route maps" category would have no entry at all, only several thousand sub-sub-categories. --Enyavar (talk) 17:18, 2 December 2021 (UTC)

Then I suggest including Category: Maps of the Silk Road into Category: Route maps.--Kaidor (talk) 17:56, 3 December 2021 (UTC)

It took me a while, but a month ago I placed it in Category:Maps of trade routes --Enyavar (talk) 22:56, 12 June 2022 (UTC)

Category:Maps of the United States by theme

Hello. I see your native language is German. Mine is English. In English we wouldn't normally prefer this:

• Category:Cultural maps of the United States

over this:

• Category:Maps of the United States by theme

So I used Cat-a-lot to move the maps there. --Timeshifter (talk) 02:05, 17 January 2022 (UTC)

So you emptied the more specific category and put all the content into its broader parent category, leaving an empty node in the category tree? I didn't invent the structure, I merely put it in place as the maps of the US were mostly not sorted at all. There is "Category for Discussion" for a reason, why didn't you use that first? English is the universal and defining language of the Category tree, so following your argument, there shouldn't be any "Cultural maps of <places>". --Enyavar (talk) 05:18, 17 January 2022 (UTC)

Actually, yes. None of the categories and subcategories inside this overall "cultural" category seem right to me:

Category:Cultural maps of the Americas

--Timeshifter (talk) 11:01, 18 January 2022 (UTC)

Right, I created a CfD already. --Enyavar (talk) 11:50, 18 January 2022 (UTC)

Please post the link here. --Timeshifter (talk) 21:28, 18 January 2022 (UTC)

You were notified by username, and I thought nobody else would read my talk page right now. Here you go: Commons:Categories_for_discussion/2022/01#Category:Cultural_maps_by_region --Enyavar (talk) 21:38, 18 January 2022 (UTC)

About deletion nominations

Hi: It is typical for one person to nominate, others to comment and a different person (usually an administrator) to close. I find things that have been previously categorized as no source, no category or no license. Most of those are just plain "Delete" and never worry about it again. However, occasionally I come across images which seem to have the wrong license or something else that could be fixed. It is not customary here for the finder to "just do it" unless the situation is absolutely cut-and-dried, obvious, no questions. What is typical is that the finder tosses the image/s over to Deletion Nominations to get the help from the community to fix the issues. While I deal with copyright all the time, I am not an expert on Crown Copyright - others are. We just wait until the discussion either provides the correct tags or other information - or an administrator expert resolves it. We don't rage at the system, we just share the load. Cheers! Ellin Beltz (talk) 00:36, 18 February 2022 (UTC)

Some cheers back, and I can't really object to any of your statements. Which of my recent deletion requests led you to make this comment? --Enyavar (talk) 06:20, 18 February 2022 (UTC)

Category: Republic of Rino Island

I thought I could upload images of micronations. What is the reason for its total elimination? Not even the flag and shield are relevant to commons? Is there a policy on images of flags and coats of arms? Sorry my English, I only speak Spanish What is the criteria to accept or not images of micronations? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Arturoloretti (talk • contribs) 13:49, 18 March 2022 (UTC)

Hi, please check out Commons:Scope and Commons:Deletion policy to find out about that, it should be translated to all major languages. Following that guideline, I understand that the fictional micronation should have been portrayed in prominent media. Sealand or Liberland GOT that news coverage, while the Deltarian Empire is unknown. (If you can find other examples on commons which encouraged you to also go public on commons - just point them out and they may be dealt with just the same. --Enyavar (talk) 14:42, 18 March 2022 (UTC)

These were the categories and images that made me believe that photographs of micronations could be included in Wikimedia Commons:

• File:Bandera_Virtualkingdom.jpg
• Category:State_of_Vishwamitra
• Category:Castoria
• Category:Central_Saharan_Republic

I did not find information in the news media about any of them. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Arturoloretti (talk • contribs) 15:36, 18 March 2022 (UTC)

Thanks, deletion is pending on all of them by now. --Enyavar (talk) 22:56, 12 June 2022 (UTC)

1st crusade

Hello.

I don't really understand what is the problem with this category Maps concerning the First Crusade. Could you please give me a clue for that matter. Regards.

--Io Herodotus (talk) 13:57, 30 April 2022 (UTC)

"Famines in China"

[Category:Go-Hing_Festival,_Seattle,_1921&oldid=664819191]: Obviously, not an is-a relationship, but it was a fundraiser for famine relief. If we had a category for the specific famine of course I would have put it there instead, but we don't. - Jmabel ! talk 22:41, 14 June 2022 (UTC)

Autopatrol given

Hello. I just wanted to let you know that I have granted autopatrol rights to your account; the reason for this is that I believe you are sufficiently trustworthy and experienced to have your contributions automatically marked as "reviewed". This has no effect on your editing, it is simply intended to make it easier for users that are monitoring Recent changes or Recent uploads to find unproductive edits amidst the productive ones like yours. In addition, the Flickr upload feature and an increased number of batch-uploads in UploadWizard, uploading of freely licensed MP3 files and an increased limit for page renames per minute are now available to you. Thank you. --Minorax^«¦talk¦» 05:22, 9 August 2022 (UTC)

Nonono, don't thank me - thank you --Enyavar (talk) 06:06, 9 August 2022 (UTC)

Flags of Toopian Nations

Dear Sir or Madam, I read your reasoning and related Wikimedia articles and I am in complete understanding and agreement with it. My question is in regards to where is best to categorize these files on the platform. It seems to me that there are various fictional flags hosted on this platform and therefore that it is appropriate for me to upload them in theory. My question is in regards to how I would appropriately go about this. I am not a highly tech savvy person and my expertise with Wikimedia Commons is limited, and you seem to be quite a bit more expert in this regard. Is it necessary for me to include the word fictional in the files' titles or do they need to be categorized differently? Or are they completely inappropriate for this platform, altogether? I would appreciate your input, as I would sincerely like to have these files available on Wikimedia Commons. Best Regards Presromanaw (talk) 02:54, 14 November 2022 (UTC)

The latter: inappropriate on this platform. Please read my user page to learn about my stance on the matter, and read Commons:Scope to learn about the community rules. Once we allow personal fiction, we'd get absolutely swamped - in fact, we already get swamped with stuff like yours. If you want to point out other fictional flags on Commons, then please do so, I treat everyone's files with the same standard. --Enyavar (talk) 05:15, 14 November 2022 (UTC)

Ulrich von Zell Wirkungsorte e.i. - old maps as a base

origin of this was here

Thank you, Anyavar, for your comments concerning my use of old maps. The base of Ulrich von Zell map was published in 1954 and I would be only to happy to provide full details of the publication. But - shame on me - I don't know in which field of the Structured Data it should be done. As for Breisgau zur Karolingerzeit there is an obvious mistake in the name of my file - the book which I used was published in 1836. Again, I'm not sure how to correct it. I hugely appreciate your paying attention to these files and do agree they need correcting - please help me do it so that I know next time.DaLoetz (talk) 18:37, 8 December 2022 (UTC)

Thanks @DaLoetz: for offering the full details. You may post them here and I'll try to carry them into the file descrptions, but you could also do it yourself. There is no definite/best formatting of sources I believe, but there is of course the possibility to mis-state them (and many uploaders do!). People who are used to mostly publish their own photos, can just forget to make different source claims when they upload old stuff, and also go with "current date, own work". So, for easy example, I present File:Portugal_OSM_Zoom_9.png: I can edit "Date", "Source" and "Author": in the first I can give the original year of publishing; in the source I can refer to where the map came from; under author I first credited the source and then myself because I did some minor arranging. In your case, "1834" is the date, "source" should name the book and edition number, then "author" gives the author(s) of the original map plus a mention of what you added, if anything. All the best, --Enyavar (talk) 22:54, 8 December 2022 (UTC)

HUGE THANKS! I've made the changes you recommended:

File:Breisgau zur Zeit der Karolinger Karte in "Badische Landes-Geschichte" v. Josef Bader, 18936.jpg - Wikimedia Commons

The number in the file name is still wrong but I have no way to correct it. It's the year in which the book I used was published (1836), which was a reprint of the first publication in 1834.

File:Ulrich von Zell Wirkungsorte.jpg - Wikimedia Commons

But I can't figure out why after all my changes this file info still shows Own Work as Source. It really beats me. I tried to compare the description in your file, but as it doesn't exhibit Structured Data I can't see how you filled in the fields there.

Anyway I do hope it is better, fairer, now. And you have helped me enormously to get to grips with Wikimedia (that is in fact more complicated than writing articles). Best regards. DaLoetz (talk) 19:59, 9 December 2022 (UTC)

Huh, it seems that changing descriptions within the file is less obviously available. So, here's a better walkthrough: At the top right of each file's page, in the line below your username, there is an "Edit" button. By clicking on it, you are then able to edit the source code. Here is a revision comparison for your perusal.
Um... are we talking about the same Zeißig? The one you have stated, was a sculptor who died in 1944. If the person who created the map that was published in 1954, was still alive then, the map should get deleted, regrettably. Copyright law of Germany says "Life+70 years", so if the cartographer Zeißig died (for example!) in 1960, the map can get restored in 2030 by the admins.
All the best, -Enyavar (talk) 20:34, 9 December 2022 (UTC)

Category:Elections by country by year

with the current contents it should be Elections by year by country. RZuo (talk) 18:35, 10 December 2022 (UTC)

Hi, what exactly sparked this comment? Most election categories are by now set up in the pattern of "<year> elections in <country>", but there are often country-specific subcategories of each singular election process, that deviate from said pattern. Check for example: Category:2011_elections_in_Europe. I think that in the long term we can eventually homogenize the patterns internationally, but there is no reason why one pattern is superior over the other. --Enyavar (talk) 21:00, 10 December 2022 (UTC)

Elections by country by year -> 2021 elections by country

Elections by year by country -> Elections in France by year RZuo (talk) 21:37, 10 December 2022 (UTC)

Possibly. Please explain: what is the purpose of writing me? --Enyavar (talk) 21:39, 10 December 2022 (UTC)

Category:Elections_by_country_by_year

Elections by country by year has been listed at Commons:Categories for discussion so that the community can discuss ways in which it should be changed. We would appreciate it if you could go to voice your opinion about this at its entry. If you created this category, please note that the fact that it has been proposed for discussion does not necessarily mean that we do not value your kind contribution. It simply means that one person believes that there is some specific problem with it. If the category is up for deletion because it has been superseded, consider the notion that although the category may be deleted, your hard work (which we all greatly appreciate) lives on in the new category. In all cases, please do not take the category discussion personally. It is never intended as such. Thank you!

RZuo (talk) 22:05, 10 December 2022 (UTC)